Stephen
Smith:
Your background is quite varied and extensive, which includes being
an executive producer for scores of stage productions for major
country acts such as Garth Brooks, Alan Jackson and Vince Gill,
work in political management, radio and television programming and
management, radio ownership and broadcasting work for the US Armed
Forces radio. What’s the most dramatic change that you have witnessed
in the music industry between the start of your career and today?
Paul
Allen:
Wow! There is so much drama in the music industry these days it
is hard to pick out the most dramatic. But in the 40 years I have
been involved in the music industry, probably the single most
important change that has driven our industry, music business,
is turning the sound of a violin into digits. It’s been a number
of different ways to memorialize music, capture, reproduce it
and turn it into commerce, but when the CD became the median by
which music is being sold it was wonderful at first. It sounded
so crisp and clear. It was perfect; absolutely perfect. In some
cases, perhaps, too perfect, but it was a wonderful thing. But
as the years went on we are seeing now what’s happening and seeing
the change, and in certain ways the erosion in some aspects of
the music business as we used to know it. Just changing music
from analog to where it is digital has made a huge impact and
continues to have a huge impact on everyone, especially songwriters.
Those
who are commercial songwriters, who get their music on the radio,
make a lot of money because of the royalties paid by the PROs
for hit songs. A hit country song for example, even though country
as a genre is like about 10 percent of what all pop music is out
there—it’s just sort of a blip—makes a lot of money. But if you
get a number one song in country from a sales stand point the
songwriters and the publishers are going to split probably 40
or 45 thousand dollars. If you have a number one song that is
on an album, the performance royalties coming from a project like
that can be almost a million dollars split between the songwriters.
So there are huge amounts of money still out there for songwriters.
But what we see is the erosion. And what every songwriter understands
is that the erosion comes in the sales of recorded music, because
it is being stolen now to the tune of billions of songs a month
which are swapped through peer to peer. So, it was a wonderful
thing when it came out as digits, but it is also forcing our industry
to step back and take a deep breath and try to revise how we are
doing business and earning money from what we do.
Stephen
Smith:
You have an article on your website entitled “The New Business
Model for Record Labels” in which you address the fact that the
value of recorded music continues to fall due to illegal downloading
and peer to peer file sharing, as you just touched upon. As record
labels are trying to compensate by signing deals with artists
that include a piece of the touring, merchandise sales, etc.,
how do you think songwriters (and artists) can survive in the
new changing era with so many illegal downloads and less of an
income from songs?
Paul
Allen:
Well, there is certainly less income from mechanical royalties,
certainly, because illegal downloading is just hurting everybody--the
artist, the labels, and songwriters themselves. But, what I think
is a real positive, it’s not as positive as I would like on the
behalf of the songwriters, but what is positive are the changes
to where digital uses of copyrighted songs are now being compensated.
If you’re online, if you’re on satellite radio, songwriters are
compensated whereas before, digitized songs on the web and other
digital outlets weren’t compensated. It was a strain to convince
anyone that that was necessary. So, yes, there is a down turn,
but I go back to the point that having a good strong commercial
catalog and being okay with having it on regular commercial radio
is not selling out. Commercial radio has all different kinds of
music. That’s where the millions are at to be made.
A
couple of myths that I talk to my students about is the myth that
commercial radio is going to go away and it will no longer have
any relevance. Commercial radio pays hundreds of millions of dollars
a year to songwriters to be able to use their music on the air.
It is the single largest source of income for a songwriter. During
the average week, people who are twelve years old and older listen
to about 18 hours of traditional commercial radio. That’s down
about 45 minutes from about five years ago. So, commercial radio
is not going away, it’s still has a very important role to play.
Now there are talks and discussions about the long tail--where
there used to be hits along the front end of the curve and the
tale just ended; and now there are fewer hits and the tail just
gets longer and longer. It was a theory that was proposed by Wired
Magazine. As it turns out, STILL the hits are all crowded towards
the front of the curve.
One
of the myths that I talk about is that the major labels are going
to die. They are not going to die. If you look at all the songs
that are on the top two hundred on Billboard, the top albums that
are being sold, 80 percent of those albums are still being sold
by the four major labels. It’s true that 70 percent of all that
stuff is masters owned by the label, but you add in the ones that
are least mastered, still 80 percent of the music is coming from
the major labels. So in some ways our business has changed over
the years, it has, but in a lot of ways it still remains the same.
Stephen
Smith:
Given the changes within the music industry, what do you think
will be the next big thing for music, songwriters and/or the industry?
Paul
Allen:
The next big thing…and this is just putting on my thinking cap
to look forward…is considering how long the mp3 has been around.
It has been around quite a while. It’s been tossed around a lot,
it’s been discussed, it’s been cussed, continually on a daily
bases. The iPod has been around for five or six years now and
normally the median that has been used to consume music changes
relatively frequently. I mean, it’s nothing that stays tightly
forever. Given the age of the iPod and the age of the mp3, as
we look forward the next two or three years based on things I've
heard in meetings I have been in, there is going to be some new
median that is going to come along. The question is how is that
going to impact the industry? Until we know what that something
is or how it is going to come about, until we know that it is
going to become difficult to view by just knowing that is going
to happen and when it’s going to be we don't know. But when it
does happen, that’s when we're all going to have to scramble and
we, you, are going to have to take the things you've learned in
your education and experience, Stephen, and be able to say, “Here's
an idea and I think it’s going to work for us.”
Stephen
Smith:
You are the author of the top-ranked and hands-on book, Artist
Management for the Music Business, as well as the contributing
author to the new industry guide From Demo To Delivery, and co-author
of the recording industry book entitled Record Label Marketing.
What inspired you to write these books and what value do you think
they bring to people within the industry today?
Paul
Allen:
In the case of the Record Label Marketing book and the Artist
Management book, the reason I wrote both of those books is because
those were courses I was teaching here at MTSU. What I learned
was that the books that were available were either outdated or
no one had taken the time to write the book that I wanted to have
with the information that I wanted my students to take away from
the course. So, two of my colleagues here at MTSU and I co-authored
the Record Label Marketing book because they had been using copies
of things and articles from here and there, and that would end
up being what we gave our students at the beginning of the semester.
We’d give them a stack of articles. So, because there wasn’t a
book, we wrote one. As it turns out that book is now used by twenty-five
to thirty major universities.
In
the case of the Artist Management book, for my top career I have
been involved in management one way or another, whether it was
others’ careers or politics or business organization or whatever.
I've always managed something throughout my career. The artist
management guides that were out there were mostly do it yourself
guides for people--how you manage your band--and there are probably
hundreds of books out there like that. But, there was no book
that teaches someone who wants a career in artist management that
teaches how to launch a career as an artist manager, to manage
their own career, and then to manage the career of others, which
is what this is. So I put the book together and drew from my experiences
in managing, which means I made some mistakes along the way and
if you read that book hopefully you won't make the same mistakes.
But, I also put in there, in the Artist Management book for example,
some information to keep you from being frustrated if you’re going
to be in our business, such as to be able to understand the sources
of power in the music business, to understand some of the routes
in the music business, and to understand that most of what goes
on is not personal to you or to anybody else but has to do with
your relevance. For example, if you’re a songwriter who works
in Nashville and you’ve written Hip Hop music, it’s probably going
to be a challenge to find a niche where you can network with people
to do just that because of the nature of the songwriting movement
in Nashville. So, a Hip Hop songwriter in Nashville is not going
to be terribly relevant to what goes on in the traditional business
field. Not to say it’s not good music, but it is probably somewhere
else that it could be. So, when you’re rejected by your music
it’s not personal, it’s just your relevance to somebody who wants
to take one of those songs and make some money from them. So I
wrote the book because the only other book that was out there
close to it made frequent references to cassette tape demos and
that kind of tells me that I need to write the book. So I wrote
both of them and am still pleased with the result. I hope people
are taking things from them because as an author of books like
this you don't make a lot of money, but what you do is you put
together things that you think people need to know to help encourage
their success and I hope both of the books where needed.
Stephen
Smith:
I thought they were great books and I took your class, of course.
I definitely took something away from it.
Paul
Allen:
And that’s good
Stephen
Smith: When we started coordinating this interview, you said that
you were updating the Record Label Marketing book. Tell us about
this new book project and when it will be available.
Paul
Allen:
When we first wrote Record Label Marketing it was designed to
show how to take a shiny CD that comes from stereo mastering--nice
shiny nothing on both sides-- all the way over to where it actually
becomes a $12 CD at Wal-Mart and what goes on there in between.
And when we first wrote the book, it was published at the end
of 2005 and the spring of 2006 was when MySpace, YouTube, and
all of a sudden these things come out of the wood works, and we
didn’t have them in our book cause that is how quickly our business
changes. So, that gives you an example over the last three years,
a lot of things has changed and we went back and re-wrote the
book this past winter. I would say 60 to 75 percent of what we
put in there that relate to current aspects of music business
had to be re-written just to be added too. But it will be out
in its new form sometime in July and available for use by universities
again this fall and to anybody who wants to know about the process
of how labels market their music, it’s right there in that book.
Stephen
Smith:
Thank you for letting us interview you. We appreciate it. I’ve
asked all my questions, but do you have any last words that you
would like to share?
Paul
Allen:
The last thing I would leave with you and leave with those who
would read or watch this piece is, whether you are going to be
an artist, or a songwriter, whether you’re going to be a manager,
whether you’re going to be a publisher, whether you’re going to
work in a studio—whatever your goal—is to map out a plan for yourself.
I can’t underscore planning enough in any of the stuff I teach
or any advice I give anybody. Put together a plan. If you don’t,
you’re going to find yourself wondering around and you’re not
going to know where you need to be; you’re never going to know
if your there if you don’t have a plan. So make a three year plan.
Find out what your goal is and put together those steps that you
need to take. And look at that plan and modify that plan as you
need to, because planning is something a lot of people don’t do.
It’s not a lot of fun because it takes time away from the other
things you want to do, but a well thought out plan will be one
of the keys to assuring that you get to where you want to go ultimately
in your career.
Paul
Allen’s Bio:
Paul Allen’s career has included work in the radio and television
industries as well as being executive director of Country Radio
Broadcasters, Inc., an industry trade association. He has been
producer or executive producer for scores of stage productions
for acts including Alan Jackson, Garth Brooks, the Dixie Chicks,
Toby Keith, Travis Tritt, Trisha Yearwood, Clint Black, Vince
Gill, Martina McBride, and Lee Ann Womack in conjunction with
the annual Country Radio Seminar. For seven years he was the executive
producer of the New Faces of Country Music Show presented in Nashville.
Allen's background also includes work in political management,
radio and television programming and management, radio ownership,
and broadcasting work for the US Armed Forces Radio. His consulting
clients include companies in the management, public relations,
and film industries. He is an alumnus of Leadership Music, and
a member of the Country Music Association. He is a recipient of
the Department of Recording Industry Outstanding Alumni Award
for Service to the Community, and the 2006 Award for Instructional
Technology. Paul teaches artist management, Internet for the music
business, concert promotion, and marketing of recordings at Middle
Tennessee State University. Visit www.paul-allen.com
or http://artistmanagementonline.com
for more information on Paul Allen.